Battle above the Clouds – Part 9
Deception amongst Believers
The two verses below have been coming to my attention several times over the past two months. It cannot be ignored. With everyone looking for 'new revelations', the Lord is advising us to stay on the old path, the good way (aka HIS way/will)... (In other words, He is the giver of revelation and revelations. Why look to man for 'new revelations', and not to YHWH...THE beginning, THE new?)
Thus says the LORD, Stand you in
the ways, and see, and ask for the old
paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and you shall
find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken (listen) to the sound of the trumpet.
But they said, We will not hearken.
[Jer 6:16, 17]
According
to various online dictionaries, deception is “to cause (someone) to believe what is not true; to mislead (lead
astray) by false statements or appearance; to beguile or ensnare, to cause to
accept as true or valid what is actually false or invalid.”
The word of
God warns us about great deception (which began in the Garden of Eden), that would
enter in even stronger as soon as He departed.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [Mat 7:15]
Paul was in anguish and tears when he
stated:
“For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in
among you, not sparing the flock Also of your
own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away
disciples after them. [Acts
20:29, 30]
Perverse (1611
KJV dictionary): to turn from truth or
propriety; to thwart Scripture, willfully misinterpret or misapply it; to
divert from the true intent or object (false doctrine = false teaching)(to corrupt)
So again, we do well to remember that both Jesus
(Y’shua) and His apostles (Peter [2Pet 2:1-3], John [1Jn 2:18], Mark [Mk 13:22] and Paul) alerted disciples to the fact that the
deceivers that saints (disciples of Jesus (Y'shua)) should be most aware of would be those amongst them (within their own groups) and
would be those who call themselves ‘Christians’, or followers or disciples of Christ. Sobering!
In the book of Matthew 24, verse 3, Jesus’ apostles asked Him when all these things (occurrences in the last days) would be, and what would be the sign of His coming and the end of the world. The very first thing Jesus (Y’shua) stated was a warning about deception. Not only is prophecy unfolding more quickly now right before us, but the Lord’s words should make us stay very alert as we see deception taking unparalleled 'and' unprecedented appearances and manifestations, by great leaps and bounds, both in the secular and amongst believers.
In the book of Matthew 24, verse 3, Jesus’ apostles asked Him when all these things (occurrences in the last days) would be, and what would be the sign of His coming and the end of the world. The very first thing Jesus (Y’shua) stated was a warning about deception. Not only is prophecy unfolding more quickly now right before us, but the Lord’s words should make us stay very alert as we see deception taking unparalleled 'and' unprecedented appearances and manifestations, by great leaps and bounds, both in the secular and amongst believers.
Take heed that no man deceive you.
[Mat 24:4]
Almost every (if not all) follower of Christ Jesus (Y’shua) consider ourselves the 'remnant', the ‘elect’ (saved), one of the five 'wise' virgins, and are
confident that we could not or would not be deceived, but if that were so,
why would Jesus consider it necessary to warn even His own apostles not to let any
man deceive them?
Personally, I always understood the "elect" were the Hebrews, the Jews, the Israelites. These were the chosen people, the original olive tree in which the Gentiles are "grafted in", or the family we are "adopted" into.
The apostles walked with
Jesus, talked with Him personally, heard Him speak publicly, yet He deemed it
necessary to forewarn His beloved twelve about deception. It is written that ‘if’ it were possible, even the elect would be deceived [Mat 24:24], but so many followers of Christ do not think it is possible at all. Well, yes, it is; otherwise Jesus would not have warned His disciples about many
being deceived.
I do not want to be presumptuous - I tremble at the thought, knowing my shortcomings, knowing this corrupted flesh, the fallen nature that I inherited from Adam (nor can I blame my own personal sins on Adam...although it IS tempting). [chuckles]
Yet on a serious note, I make my own choices. We all do. We can repent with godly sorrow, broken under the weight of our own sins. Then what? ... but Jesus! That's what! Thank God for sending Jesus (Y'shua); thank Jesus for accepting, for coming - willingly!
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one
another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax
cold. [Mat 24:11-13]
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; [2Thess 2:3]
The Holy Spirit showed me some years ago (and I have
repeated it to any who would listen over the years [sometime after 2005 when I committed to Jesus]) that when Jesus (Y’shua) spoke, saying, ‘there comes a falling away’, that He was speaking of someone who once believed in Him and walked as a Christian for a time will fall away.
I ever say that a person
cannot fall away from a place where one did not once stand! May the Lord help us all and may we take His
words soberly to heart. Help us learn, Lord - and may we learn to differentiate between truth and error because we do not want to pass along error. Stay guarded!
Witchcraft and Paganism
Gnosticism
was already around in Jesus’ day, as well as false prophets and idolaters. Yet as
far back as the book of Deuteronomy, the Lord God not only warned of false prophets, but the dangers of people listening to
them, believing what they say to be true and from God when it did not come from God. Signs and wonders followed them,
yet that does not mean they are anointed of God. [Deut 18:21-22]
The
sorcerers in Egypt were able to imitate (counterfeit) God’s miracles, such as
the rods (staffs) turning into snakes, but when it came to plagues, ending with the
destroyer that killed the firstborn males, both man and beast, of the Egyptians (and anyone else, including Israelites, who did not place the blood of a lamb over their doorway or on the doorposts), they could not duplicate the POWER of God revealed in those events.
In fact, the magicians (court sorcerers) were only able to replicate three out of the ten plagues that the Lord sent. When Aaron threw down Moses' staff and it became a serpent, the magicians were able to replicate that through "enchantments", but Moses' serpent ate up (overpowered)their serpents.
When the rod (staff) was stretched out over the Egyptian waters, it turned to blood. With 'enchantments', the Egyptians were able to copy that. They were also able to produce frogs. When God brought the plague of lice (third plague), the sorcerers could not copy it or any other plague (miracle) after that. (The staff turning into a serpent was not a plague.)
God’s Word
takes precedence over anything and everything a word of prophecy (spoken outside of His Word) may say; that means every
dream, every vision, every prophetic word, is not as important as the Word of God [Holy Scriptures/Bible] NOR His Son Jesus, who IS the Word that came in the flesh, and comes in the flesh (of born-again believers).
I will
praise You with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto You. I will
worship toward Your holy temple, and praise Your name for Your lovingkindness
and for your truth: for You have magnified Your word above all Your name. [Ps 138:1, 2]
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among
us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,)
full of grace and truth. [Jn 1:4]
Witchcraft is still amongst us today and even more so, escalating and accepted gladly by the
masses, as many seek a ‘spiritual experience’.
Rebellion is as witchcraft (meaning it is just as serious in God's eyes as witchcraft - Lucifer's fall was due to rebellion and pride) and it (witchcraft) has entered into many of the
mainstream churches where popular and predominant leaders are respected,
followed and worst of all, believed. The occult has moved like wildfire, exalting itself in movies, books, music, videos,
games, sports events - the world!
It is crucially important that people seek God first, abide in Jesus the
true Vine, feed on the Word of God and not seek a ‘word’ from someone with a
prophetic gifting first. Seek Jesus first! It is true that
the Lord said that in the last days, He would pour out His Spirit upon all
flesh and sons and daughters would prophesy, old men would dream dreams and
young men would have visions. Pentecost was the beginning. The Holy Spirit lives in the true, born-again believer.
We ALL must repent. We ALL have sinned and fallen short of God's glory. [Rom 3:23] I believe prophetic words are still given, but it is not scripture and it does not replace scripture. The Bible is complete and sufficient, but God did not stop guiding or speaking once the last letter was written in the book of Revelation.
A prophetic message is NOT like horoscope readings or fortune-telling, but about Jesus, the gospel, and especially repentance. But that does not mean to run to those prophesying first. The first commandment is to love the Lord your God (first) and in the Bible, Jesus (Y'shua) is called our FIRST love. [Rev 2:4] And we are to love others enough to tell them the truth, but the truth is not very popular, nor is it very well-received most times.
Therefore, there will indeed be numerous people around the world, in every nation, tongue, tribe and clan, who will be vessels to
speak forth that which the Lord is revealing in these last days, but never, ever are these vessels to be a substitute for Jesus, or time spent with the Lord, reading His word or obeying what HE says. We have been taught
not to follow after man (a person), but to follow after the Lord Jesus only.
And many false prophets
shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax
cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be
saved. [Mat 24:11-13]
God’s (YHWH’s) Love
God is
love, full of mercy and grace; this is a fact. Yet many will gloss over sin, using Ghandi’s statement, which was to ‘love the sinner and hate the sin.’ It is
believed that Ghandi paraphrased Augustine’s words:
“For this reason, the man who lives by God's
standards and not by man's, must needs be a lover of the good, and it follows
that he must hate what is evil. Further, since no one is evil by
nature, but anyone who is evil is evil because of a perversion of nature, the
man who lives by God's standards has a duty of "perfect hatred"
towards those who are evil; that is to say, he should not hate the person
because of the fault, nor should he love the fault because of the person. He
should hate the fault, but love the man. And when the fault has been cured
there will remain only what he ought to love, nothing that he should hate.” (Emphasis mine)
There is
nowhere in scripture where we see these words.
We are to repent (change our minds and turn away from sin) and not make
excuses for it. We are not to be enablers. The Lord will help us
and deliver us, but we have to first be willing (humble, repentant) and second, obedient to His leading.
The Lord will help us overcome our weaknesses
and deliver us from any bondage. (Yep, He's purging me more too, no doubt.) Nothing is etched in stone regarding this, meaning there are times God helps, delivers and heals without us doing anything first. There are endless miracles happening more often than any of us know about.
Hell and the Lake of Fire
Most leaders
do not want to warn about the consequences of sin or even warn of hell. Since the book of Revelation speaks of hell
and death being thrown into the lake of fire, many say that hell is not forever. That is not what the word of God states. The lake of fire IS eternal. I'd say that will be hell, which means I would not want to end up there. It is called the "second death". [Rev 20:14]
Folks get things all mixed up sometimes. I know I did, and still do sometimes. (shh-hh) But, Gehenna, Sheol, lake of fire, hades, are all different things. However, that is not a can of food that I am going to open right now. Like said, further false teachings will be
discussed later in this series; but it is crucial that people understand
that the lake of fire is a reality...a harsh reality.
In
Revelation, it speaks about hell and death being thrown (cast) into the lake of
fire. Yet, we also know that ALL will be
resurrected on the last day and that there is a Great Throne Judgment (Judgment
Day). The lake of fire is not a fallacy
and all those whose names are not found in the book of life shall be cast into
the lake of fire.
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that
are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that
have done evil, unto the resurrection of
damnation. [Jn 5:28, 29]
And I saw
a great white throne, and him that
sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was
found no place for them.
And I saw
the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and
another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out
of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the
sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead
which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death
and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
And whosoever
was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. [Rev20:11-15]
At the
following link, the writer speaks of hell, but also gives testimony of Dr.
Maurice Rawling, who was not a believer at all, until he resuscitated a man who
convinced him there is a hell.
Also, about
half way down the page, it speaks of the communist, Dr. Azzacove, who was
drilling in Siberia with other men. See
the picture below for his candid statement.
There is an
audio link, which had originally been sent to Art Bell (Coast to Coast radio),
by a man who lived in Chicago. He had
been a skeptic too, until his uncle sent him a recording of what was
heard when the men in Siberia drilled deeply into the earth’s crust.
Look for the above picture on the page (link below) to hear the 'sounds of hell', as the audio came to be known as.
Whether it
was sounds from hell or not, no one can accurately say. However, no one was ever able to explain what
it was that was recorded. It changed the
lives of the men at the site forever, including the communist/unbeliever. The article (excerpts below) was published in
“Ammenusastia”, a newspaper circulated in Finland. Source:
http://www.av1611.org/hell.html
(IMPORTANT UPDATE
NOTE* - In a sincere desire to present truth in these articles I write, to the best of my ability, I continue searching and keeping an open ear to what the precious Spirit of God may say, or alert to how He leads.
That being said, the 'voices from hell' (sounds of hell) turned out to be a recording of a gathering at a pub or somewhere nearby. It was NOT literal voices from hell, but voices of regular people that were somehow amplified and heard far away. BP2013) (Okay, I got sucked into it for awhile too - I know; I know -- shame on me!)
So many
teach about the love of God and grace ('love covers a multitude of sins'; 'for by
grace are you saved' - and these ARE truths), but the same preachers do not teach about the severity of God (judgment and
justice), as well as His holiness and righteousness. I do believe, however, that the Lord is giving
us all a serious warning…every single one of us. Many have wearied of the warnings, yet they
are just like birth pains, they will (and are) increase in frequency and intensity. We must pay attention, or blame no one but
ourselves when it all begins (great global tribulation - judgment).
We Must Think for Ourselves
None of us
are above or beyond deception. I was
deceived by family, deceived by the medical establishment, deceived by lawyers and others in my
life, but then the Lord saved and delivered me. He began to teach me by the power of His Holy
Spirit (and continues to teach me), the importance of forgiveness, the necessity of abiding in Christ and filtering everything through
His Word and His blood. I still must tread carefully,
clinging to the Lord, so that I will not be deceived. No one’s wisdom matches that of the Creator;
He is our Counselor, our Teacher, our Father, our everything.
Everyone who is alive has been deceived - deceived by historical events (inaccurate recording), by misleading news reports, by fables (Satan Claus, Easter bunny, fairies, goblins et al). Yes we grow up and learn the truth but for a season, we were deceived as children. We laugh off this kind of "deception" and consider it as "harmless".
People lie, betray and deceive each other. The Bible says the whole world is deceived by Satan (and his demons). And - if I said that I have never lied, well... I would be lying!
We cannot
just accept everything a leader may say, no matter how well-liked, how
articulate, how charming, how anointed or how accurate they seem to be. We are to think for ourselves, search the word of God and do our own
research. If we are still unsure, prayer
is the key, for the Lord promised to send the Comforter (Holy Spirit), who
would lead us into all truth. We must be born again, baptized, Spirit-filled believers. He also instructed us to pray for 'wisdom' and He would give 'liberally'.
The Lord
told us to try every spirit to see if it is of Him (God) and He surely will
honor His Word and let us know, when we ask of Him. Did He not say, we have not because we ask
not? He delights in our seeking Him; we
need Him!
And I fell at his feet to worship
him. And he said unto me, See you do
it not: I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren that have the testimony
of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. [Rev 19:10]
There is an important key to remember - the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy! In other words, the FOCUS is our King!
There is an important key to remember - the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy! In other words, the FOCUS is our King!
Beware
lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit (empty
deception), after the tradition of men,
after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [Col 2:8]
Any one of
us could be deceived and should be careful not to boast otherwise. Jesus told us how to know truth, and how to
escape deception. He is the way, the
truth and the life and no one comes to the Father (our Creator) but through Jesus (Y'shua). He made a clear
statement as to how not to be deceived.
Then said
Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed; And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make
you free.
[Jn 8:31, 32]
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood:
and these three agree in one. [1Jn5:8]
This
article is not primarily about false prophets (teachers), but since the Lord
began revealing more to me about deception (particularly in the secular realm),
it seemed appropriate to include the deception amongst believers, especially
since Jesus Himself found it necessary to warn His own apostles. Later on in this series, I will share more
about deception in the church.
As I write,
sharing these things with readers, I realize that many are already very well
aware of the deception all around, as well as everything else I have written
about, but ironically, you would be surprised at the number of Christians that are simply NOT aware. And if told, they go into denial (It is well with my soul - kind of thing. [rolls eyes, bangs head on wall])
However, it is also a reminder to myself. I can let my guard down at the wrong time. We all need reminders; I know I do and the Lord is faithful in doing
so. My prayer is that the true Body of
Christ (remnant) will be guarded and protected against deception, that none of us are
deceived.
Yet, we can
be confident that as we abide in
Christ and obey His leading/direction (just as He instructed), and hold all
things up to the light of His word, the Holy Spirit will lead us into all
truth. We can believe Him and find rest
and peace in Him.
Russian Prophecy
A friend directed me to this Russian prophecy that was translated into English (see below). It was posted on the BIN site, but apparently originates from Steve Quayle’s website. Personally, I do not go to that site normally, due to the mixture allowed on it (same mixture as heard on Coast to Coast - where everything and anyone can be heard, with no filtering or discernment; it can be dangerous for many). that being said, the prophecy seemed fitting for this post. I have broken it up into paragraphs, for easier reading; however, the link is provided at the end.
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(Below is what it says. It is written verbatim): (I am speculating that it was written recently, this year 2013, but please do check for yourself. Thanks - BP)
A talk is going around about a war, but not many understand. I am God and I will let the war happen to humble my people. Wickedness is great and they are not ashamed to do shameful deeds. But I will not tolerate it and soon will expose their adultery and they will be crying with bitterness if they don’t repent.
The repentance needs to be genuine, not false like so many are doing—it is not pleasing Me. But repent genuinely and fulfill My Word. The people who truly repent, I will guard and save. Soon there are going to be riots between peoples and there will be a war.
Difficult times are coming, but all this is to humble my people, which once accepted but did not value how precious the Sacrifice was that I suffered in order to redeem. My redeemed, washed in my blood, will rejoice because they are going to be saved. But the ones that don’t esteem My sacrifice, they don’t realize that they will perish. Soon the earth will open its mouth because of My anger, to swallow the sinners.
But I don’t want this. Repent and you shall be saved. Hell is a place of torment and I don’t want to send souls there, but many are plunging down. Renew your heart so you don’t fall into that place. Give mercy to people, love one another and you will be given mercy and be saved.
I will send sickness to humble the flesh, because wickedness is great and my soul hates it. Be afraid of those things, so you don’t perish, because many have perished already and they don’t acknowledge it. I am knocking on their hearts, but they don’t hear. They are quenching my call.
They will be knocking on the gate but I will reject them like they were rejecting Me. May your deeds be good not evil. The pure in heart shall see Me. Cleanse your hearts constantly because I am coming and I will not delay. The earth will flee from My appearance. The ones that don’t accept my name will be in fear and shame.
They will want to be saved, but they will be too late, because the time was given. So don’t be a careless soul, because faithful and pure hearts I will let into my city. They will glow like heavenly lights in My glory. Woe to the ones who rejected Me.
Their cry will be bitter and I will not listen to them because they didn’t listen to Me when I wanted their repentance from their wicked deeds. There is desolation in My temple, and hearts are not pure. But I will cleanse if you will call. My soul hates their praises.
I don’t want that kind of praise which they bring up to me in their lawlessness, but I want repentance. The wicked world is waiting for My judgment for its deeds and I will judge. Don’t think that you can escape without repentance.
So repent today in the acceptable time while My blood can still cleanse your sins because the pure in heart shall see God. The ones that don’t want to think about cleansing are condemned now because they disregarded My sacrifice for sin. I want to give mercy, want to save, want to bless, but not many want it.
Most people choke the good in their hearts with their deeds. That’s why in these last days I will pour out My Spirit onto the chosen with pure hearts, tongues and thoughts, but those who lust and don’t meditate on Me, I will punish. So meditate on me day and night in every place and you will be blessed. Your prayers will be heard and you will not be judged with the unrighteous. Thus saith the Holy Spirit, Amen.
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=314
In the comments section on BIN, someone protested about the prophecy stating that God does not ‘hate the praises’ of people, insisting that God (Yhwh) always hears the prayers and praises of people (He is love) and does not ‘hate’ them or ignore them.
I, Bonita, am not endeavoring to influence any reader here one way or another about the prophecy; we must try every spirit to see if it is of God (test it against the word of God (scripture) and pray also). However, there are scriptures that would negate the comment posted under the prophecy. There are times YHWH will not hear or accept, and times what 'appears' to be good displeases Him.
Therefore pray not you for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble. [Jer 11:14]
Surely
God will not hear vanity, neither will
the Almighty regard it. Although you say you shall not see him, yet judgment is before him; therefore
trust you in him. [Job 35:13,
14]
Wherefore
the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do
honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me
is taught by the precept of men: [Is 29:13 –
see also Mat 15:8]
Now we know that God hears not
sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and does his will, him he hears [Jn 9:31]
Another thought...we really must be careful and try the spirit. How? For one, against the word of God. In the prophecy above, it ends with:
That’s why in these last days I will pour out My Spirit onto the chosen with pure hearts, tongues and thoughts, but those who lust and don’t meditate on Me, I will punish.
Well, that is NOT what is written. It is written in Joel 2:28-29:
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see vision.
And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out My Spirit.
(and repeated by Peter on the day of Pentecost, where he repeated the words of the prophet Joel; and the words are recorded in Acts 2:16-18]
One last thing, the Holy Spirit ALWAYS lifts up and glorifies Jesus, not Himself, so although the Lord speaks through us by His precious and Holy Spirit, I've never once had the Holy Spirit say it was HIS words, but it was understood that it was either the Father or Son speaking.
Something to consider and pray about...
Fear God
God is
love; however (I repeat) God is also holy and just. Jesus Christ is holy and just. The Lord God hashas always warned people about His
judgment and for us all to turn from our wicked ways, for all of us have fallen
short of the glory of God. It is not too
late, but it does not take a rocket scientist to see that we are almost out of
time. He is good
and His mercy endures forever; but remember, the fear of the Lord is the
beginning of wisdom.
He created us for
His good pleasure, to fellowship with us.
Many of us are (and have been) going through a trying of our faith as
never before (as stated in previous posts), so let us hold fast to our King and
not let go, keeping a repentant heart as He reveals all that is in us that is
not of Him.
I believe these tests or trials will increase, as we GROW, just like soldiers who continue to be trained; what they learned newly is tried anew. More thought...because who are the ones that eventually "fall away" and why?
Let Him purge and purify us,
so that we will be without spot or blemish. He is love and it is His desire for all to be saved, but we know that not all will be, for it is written about right up to and including the book of Revelation.
The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. [2Pet 3:9]
Reality of Hell
I end this
with a video about a young woman named Angelica Mora, who has an interesting testimony. She claims that she saw heaven and hell and
met Jesus, when she was 18 years old. She speaks of a pope in hell,
celebrities and much more. At the end,
she speaks of the rapture, but nowhere does she say a 'pre-trib' rapture.
Instead, she speaks of scripture that talks about the
resurrection on the last day. I would
say that it is as the book of Revelation states, that at the last trump, there
will be the resurrection of the dead and a ‘catching up’, after tribulation (my opinion, and it is only an opinion, but I am still not sure about the timing of the rapture.) I do know and believe we (His children) will NOT be subjected to His wrath. Is the tribulation judgment or Father's wrath?) If it's judgment, we will be here; but if it's Day of the Lord; His wrath, I do not believe we suffer that as faithful disciples. God's people do not suffer His wrath. That is for sure.
All that I
have shared here in this writing, whether in word, audio or video, I encourage
you to take everything to the Lord. We are
capable of thinking for ourselves, but we should get into the habit of taking
everything to Him because all of us are capable of making mistakes, including me. (I still make mistakes though I try not too, like everyone else.) Jesus is faithful and
will confirm or negate; we can trust Him.
In my next
writing, I will touch upon deception regarding the Dark Knight Rises movie and Sandy Hook. I realize that these topics have gone viral and have been spoken about by many, but there are a couple of observations I made that I have not seen discussed yet. Perhaps someone has noticed what I did, but I have not come across these observations being discussed yet. It will show you how easy it is for 'masses' to be deceived, as well as how important it really is to 'take ALL things to the Lord'. Coming up also will be an article on Pet Goat II, a video that is incredibly symbolic.
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. You therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus (Y'shua). [Eph 6:10; 2Tim 2:1]
The young woman is named Angelica Mora. Her home is in Ecuador, where the majority of believers are Roman Catholic. The title on Angelica's testimony on YouTube is:
Pope Benedict XVI Resigned - Because of This Message from Jesus Christ (1 hr. 34 min)
Many have an experience and others lead them to 'become famous'. Then they latch onto their coattails to gloat in the light also.
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Bonita dovesofthevalleys4@gmail.com
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Bonita dovesofthevalleys4@gmail.com
Dearest Bonita, after reading your latest blog post, I wanted to send some info that has changed my understanding of Hell, the eternal grave for the wicked and those that reject the free gift, Christ Jesus unto repentance, which leads to life everlasting after much refinement.
ReplyDeleteI used to believe that hell was a place of eternal damnation, tormenting the soul, because of separation from God and all light... I have learned in the past year that I was wrong in this belief that the leaders in mans church (built by mans hand) has been teaching mankind for hundreds of years...
I have learned that hell is death eternal, dust, ashes and nothing more...
I also learned how our Father feels about how we portray Him to others in the false teaching of hells eternal torment, and how this false teaching has turned so many away from Him because they see Father as a evil, sadistic God.
I love you my sister and I hope you come to know the truth of eternal death and no longer teach false hell torture for eternity, this displeases our Father greatly and knowing how much you desire to please Him, i hope you find the truth of it... I'm including some letters from God and His Christ that have helped me. And I look forward to continue this discussion if you will...
May our heavenly Father continue to use you for His purpose my sister, I love and miss you and send a warm hug to comfort you,
deb
http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Proclaim_NOT_the_Hell_of_the_Churches_of_Men..._In_Their_Words_is_No_Mercy_Found%2C_Only_the_Makings_of_Satan
http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Churches_of_Men%2C_Hear_the_Word_of_the_Lord
dear Deb,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment. First of all, I do not recall the girl in the video saying that hell was forever, but that the souls who were in hell 'at this time' are being tormented. I did not hear the words 'eternal punishment'.
I would surmise that death and hell are cast into the lake of fire AFTER the resurrection of all who are dead, and who will stand before the Almighty God on judgment day. Death is death and the wages of sin is death.
People know from childhood that everything dies. That is the first death, but the Bible speaks of a 'second death'.
In the book of Revelation, it says that hell and death are cast into the lake of fire, so if they are cast into the lake of fire (death being the death of the physical body, and hell being the place of 'torment' until judgment day), then they are not forever.
This could be an entire article in itself and at the moment, I do not have the time to delve deeply into it. I did not want to ignore you though, but neither did I desire others to be mislead.
Deb, you are welcome to go through the archives, but you will not see where I have once said that unsaved souls will burn forever in the fires of hell and be tormented forever...not once.
Again, I do not have time to go into here..this is a comment section, but sheol, ghenna, hell...all those words need to be looked up to get proper meanings in the Greek and Hebrew, and what each means in the context that it was used.
Sheol and hades are not hell, as translated. Sheol means 'grave' or 'pit' (world of dead) and Hades is 'the grave' (place of departed souls). This is part of the misunderstanding which resulted in a spirit of error and false teaching of eternal torment. I could go deeper into it, but will not here.
Gehenna was an actual place, a city dump where in the valley of Hinnom (outside Jerusalem). Dead bodies of criminals, animals and trash were burned in the fires that burned continually, at that time.
Jesus used it as an example of God's judgment of the wicked in the lake of fire.
The lake of fire was not intended for mankind. It was prepared for Satan and his demons according to the Bible [Mat 25:41]. So then we have two extremes...those who teach eternal torment and those who teach salvation for all.
I do not believe torment for unsaved souls is ETERNAL torment because scripture speaks of the day of judgment before the throne of God. Those whose name is not found in the book of life were cast into the lake of fire. the word of God says that THIS is the second death.
What about Lazarus (not the one raised from the dead by Jesus, but the beggar Lazarus, who sat outside the gate of the city begging for bread and who was treated poorly by the rich man? When he died, it says he was with Abraham (Abraham's bosom).
The rich man died also, but an abyss separated Lazarus and Abraham from the rich man.
In Luke 16:24, 25, we see part of the conversation:
24: (rich man) And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and 'cool my tongue'; for I am 'tormented' in this flame.
25: But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and you are 'tormented'.
So we see that the rich man was tormented in flame, and that he desired just a drop of water on his tongue.
Do I believe the rich man will be tormented by flame forever? No, the Bible speaks of two resurrections, but not everyone shares the same destiny. There were a few lessons in that parable...
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. [see Daniel 12:2-4] Daniel was told in verse 4 to seal up the book until the time of the end, when many run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
ReplyDeleteThe second resurrection is connected I believe, with the second death and Jn 5:29 when Jesus teaches about the resurrection of damnation.
People teach about eternal or everlasting torment which is not scriptural. Hell is being spoken of less and less these days, but the second death, eternal damnation, is not being taught either.
We can accept that God is Sovereign; that God is love; that God brought a destroying flood where only 8 souls were saved alive and all else destroyed and we accept the accounts in the Bible about God sending armies to destroy wicked people, men, women and child, but yet we hear today...God is love, everyone will be saved in the end.
Jesus warned that we should not be afraid of man who can kill or destroy the body, but to fear the one who can destroy both body and soul.
Josephus wrote that the belief of eternal torment and the immortality of souls came from Greek fables, which the Essenes adopted as truth - but not ALL of the Essenes (as seen in the Damascus Document of the Dead Sea scrolls).
I do not believe in the eternal torment of souls, nor the salvation of 'all', but I believe the Bible that teaches that the lake of fire is indeed the second death.
So, I've already written more than I intended, and if anything, it would go along in this series of Battle above the Clouds, since this series is dealing with deception.
One last thing, Deb...
the links you gave me for the person called Timothy (Speed), for trumpet call of God online...did you ever research about the man?
Many people have left the ministry, calling it a cult, having given up all to join him. People are told online that he accepts no donations...until you go live near him (which he encourages), where you are eventually expected to give all your tithes to him only.
He owns 2-3 homes, and earns up to $93,000 plus per year. You will have to copy and paste the links I am going to give you, but I do not follow his teachings or listen to his prophecies.
Again Deb, thank you for your concern and for writing. Lord bless you.
Testimonies of those who left his ministry:
http://ttruthalwaysprevails.blogspot.com/2011_12_04_archive.html?m=0
An article on some of his contradictions:
http://ttruthalwaysprevails.blogspot.com/2011/07/trumpet-call-of-god-letters-of-god-and.html
Also Deb, he believes that his prophecies are the 'continued WORD of God' to be adhered to more than scripture.
One woman's answer to a question directed at her about Timothy Rathbun. She studied his teachings and responded with an answer.
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Christianity-Christian-Living-1401/2010/1/trumpetcallofgodonline-com-prophet.htm
I will let you continue with your own research Deb. Blessings
Bonita