Piecing the Puzzle Together – Part 2
March 2, 2012 – [3.02.2012]
Although I thought that I would post today about the next dream or vision that I had, instead I must bring an error to your attention. It goes hand in hand with the previous writing of this series. Yesterday I posted an article about the first dream vision I had that had to do with the churches. I had not understood the dream when the Lord first gave it to me, nor did I realize that it was a dream vision (a vision within a dream), nor could anyone interpret the dream for me.
Yet, this dream clearly was a warning to me of things that were to come in my personal life, but much more. It was a warning about the state or condition of the majority (not all), but the majority of churches today.
It was the only dream vision that I have ever had about the churches per say, although I have had visions (later) about the condition of the Body of Christ. That will come later as I go through the visions and dreams in the order that the Lord gave me, the best that I can.
He Gives Us Eyes to See
In part 3 of the previous series, I shared part of my journal about a trip to the Appalachian Mountains, when the Lord told me that He wanted me to face my fears, face my (personal) giants. As I was typing the entry from my journal, I noticed something. I truly believe the Holy Spirit opened my eyes to it.
I must share this because as I was in error and deceived, it is very likely that others may be also. During a demonic attack (during my stay in the mountains), I noticed that at one point I asked the Father to loose holy warrior angels to protect me. Shortly, after that I noticed in my writings that I loosed the angels. I noticed the inconsistency as I was typing, but I left it exactly as it had been entered in my journal. You can read the journal entry that I speak of here: Again He Says, Do Not Give Up in Testing Times - Part 3
Later, I was reflecting upon that entry. One time, I asked the Father to loose (order) the holy angels; the next time, it is apparent that I simply took the authority. As previously stated, I acknowledged the inconsistency and I suppose that after some brief thought, I shrugged it off and forgot about it.
After I posted the first article of Piecing the Puzzle together, it was late and a new day. Having spent until after midnight researching and reading, I thought I would relax by doing more reading. Be assured, we truly serve an incredible God and everything He does is perfect, including ordering our steps. I was led to read articles on a site (link was posted at the end of my article yesterday).
Coming Out of Deception
Without going into all the details of how I came to the full knowledge of an error that I had learned and was deceived about (yes, deceived!), I want to expose a false teaching that I learned, either at a church, read about or heard about on a Christian television show. Satan has deceived multitudes from the time of the garden. He has not quit. He has sent wolves in sheep’s clothing to infiltrate the church and teach heresies and lies, doctrines of devils.
As I stated before many times, none of us knows that we are deceived until we come out of the deception. We must continue to pray to be protected from all deception. We must ask our Lord that if we are deceived in any area, to expose it and to strengthen us to receive correction. All pride must die, which happens when we die to self.
I had learned it and believed it. Somewhere along the line, I was taught that ‘whatsoever we bind on earth is bound in heaven, and whatsoever we loose on earth is loosed in heaven’. Nothing wrong with that, it is scripture. See Matthew 16:19-Mat 18:18.
I Was Wrong
Where the error comes in is that we are taught that we have the authority to loose or command the angels of the Most High God. This is gross error! I stand before you now admitting that I was wrong in this. If any were led astray by this false doctrine because of my posting the part of my journal that revealed this, then I would sincerely ask that you forgive me and then go to the Father and repent of doing what is His authority alone to do.
I myself have repented genuinely. I also had to make a phone call because there is one dear sister in Christ that I had taught this too. She has a teachable spirit (bless the Lord) and she gladly received the correction. In fact, she shared that just last week demons came around her because of a paranormal show that she had reluctantly watched.
Being faithful to what she had been taught, she took authority and loosed angels to take the demons away, but nothing happened. Surprised, but not undaunted, she went into praising God/Yhwh instead. He is a good God and He is faithful! Those demons left, but now she understands what the Lord was showing her and it is Yhwh/God’s glory alone! How dangerous false doctrine is…how very dangerous! She forgave me.
I can well imagine that some of you may be thinking, ‘Hold on! We do have authority because of Christ in us!’ To that thought, I will say that it is wrong. I am going to share with you some things that were pointed out to me by a brother in Christ. Then I will share with you what the Holy Spirit revealed to me, after I went to the Father and repented of my ignorance and pride. Yes, it is pride if we think about it. Who are we to order the angels of the Sovereign God?
In the series called Babylon Rising, written by Joseph Herrin, he wrote something about the false doctrine of commanding angels. The Holy Spirit led me to read that series after I had posted the article on the dream vision of the churches, in the early hours of March 1st. Here is what brother Herrin wrote about the doctrine.
There is a false move afoot in the church today where Christians are being urged to pray to, or command, angels. Such is a work of Satan. The assignment of holy angels is a duty appointed only to Yahweh. Fallen men who would usurp this role do err greatly. (Joseph Herrin)
You can read it for yourself here:
I know that brother Herrin will not mind, but I am going to post something he shared with me because he said it so well. I thank the Lord for correction and I thank the Lord for rising up the Godly men in this hour. It has been a prayer of mine for some time that the Lord would do so.
Just quickly, on a brief side note…ladies, we need our men to take the lead and we must submit to that leading! It is God’s proper order of things. Eve was created from man’s rib. She was created for man, not the other way around.
Remember Deborah, a prophetess and judge, mentioned in the book of Judges? And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time. [Judg 4:4]
Through Deborah the prophetess and judge, the Lord had commanded Barak to take 10,000 men to the river near Mount Tabor, where the Lord would deliver an army that was opposing Israel into Barak’s hands. Barak said to Deborah, ‘If you go with me, then I will go, but if you will not go with me, then I will not go’. (v 4:8)
In verse 9, Deborah agrees to go, but informed Barak that the honor (that was meant for him) would be handed to a woman. Deborah did not delight in taking the honor, but neither did she want Israel to disobey the Lord through Barak. For this reason, she agreed.
Deborah knew and understood God’s proper order of things. Ladies, we must also, giving praise and thanksgiving to Yhvh/God. So, let us unite in praying for God to rise up the obedient men whose heart is for the Lord first and foremost.
To continue, Joseph Herrin explained about the false doctrine regarding ordering the angels so eloquently that I place it here. To God/Yhvh the glory!
I am sure you are aware of the practice of individuals such as Todd Bentley who speak much of angels, and commanding them in various ways. It is evident that the very motives of the men and women involved are wrong, for they are mainly focused on commanding angels of wealth and blessing to satisfy the carnal desires of men's hearts.
Yahweh allows many in the body to be deceived by charlatans such as Todd Bentley, for the motives of His children are not right. As the Psalmist said of the Israelites in the wilderness who called out for flesh to eat, Yahweh "gave them the desire of their hearts, but sent leanness to their souls" (Psalms 106:15). As Yahweh spoke to Isaiah the prophet, when His people come to Him and have idols in their hearts, Yahweh will answer them according to their idols. He will give them over to delusion that they might believe lies because they did not love the truth.
In the Bible there are no examples of men commanding angels. Even godly men like Daniel and John fell on their faces in fear and trembling when they perceived the presence of holy angels among them. These godly men did not presume to tell the angels what to do, for the angels are servants of Yahweh. Although they are sent to minister to the people of God, it is not the role of God's people to command angels. I believe it is presumptuous of men and women to believe they are qualified to do so.
Yahweh alone sees all things with perfect wisdom. He knows what experiences His sons and daughters need to pass through for their perfecting. Due to the weakness of our flesh, and the passions and desires of the Adamic soul, it would result in great abuse for men and women to have the power to command angels. Consider what James said about men and women praying amiss.
You ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it on your pleasures.
If men and women will pray amiss, consider what chaos would ensue if Yahweh granted them the authority to command angels. This present age is focused on the perfecting of the sons of God (male and female). At this time we are "a little lower than the angels." The day will come when the sons of God will judge angels, but that time is not yet. The children of God must first be perfected. They must arrive at a mature man, to the fullness of the stature that belongs to Christ. Only then will we be able to bear such great authority and not abuse it or cause harm to others. When men have become conformed to the image of Christ and are selfless, then Yahweh can place such authority upon them.
For He did not subject to angels the world to come, concerning which we are speaking. But one has testified somewhere, saying, "WHAT IS MAN, THAT YOU REMEMBER HIM? OR THE SON OF MAN, THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HIM? YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS; YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOR, AND HAVE APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS; YOU HAVE PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET." For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him. But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.
What the apostle is stating here is that man "for a little while" has been given a role lower than the angels. Even Christ did not COMMAND angels during His time in the flesh. Observe what is revealed in the following statement:
"Or do you think that I cannot now pray to My Father, and He will provide Me with more than twelve legions of angels?"
"Or do you think that I cannot now pray to My Father, and He will provide Me with more than twelve legions of angels?"
Christ did not say He could command the angels to do His bidding. He said that He could request of His Father that these angels should be sent forth. Are we greater than Christ? Is Todd Bentley, or Bob Jones, or the other men and women who pretend to have authority to command the holy angels?
The time is coming when the overcomers in Christ will sit down with Christ on His throne. Then they will be granted authority, even over angels, but that time is not yet.
For my part, I do not wish to command angels in this life. I know I am unqualified to do so. It gives me great peace, however, to know that I can bring every need, every petition to my Father and He will ALWAYS do what is right and best for me according to His perfect wisdom and selfless love.
(by Joseph Herrin)
So, on that note I ask forgiveness for unintentionally misleading anyone, if I have done so in sharing my journal. I was in error, in fact I was deceived in believing the false doctrine. It is true that throughout the time, from 2008 onward to now, I had continued to be inconsistent when it came to this teaching, just as you saw in the journal. At times, I would ask the Father to loose the angels and other times, I would simply do it. Should I dare command Yhwh/God? Heaven forbid. I have truly repented. From now on, I will ask the Father and if it be His will, He will do so. He is Sovereign and Almighty Yahweh Elohim (LORD God)!
Neither are we to worship angels, which so many do. They are ministering spirits, ministers that are a flame of fire.
And of the angels he says, Who makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. [Heb 1:7]
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind. [Col 2: 18]
Yhvh, our Almighty God indeed has a government. Everything is in perfect order. The angels are ministering spirits, but they are not exalted above Yhwh/God or Y’shua/Jesus, who is King of kings and Lord of lords. The angels bow before the King of kings and Lord of lords.
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, You are My Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on My right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool? [Heb 1:5 and13]
I had to share this with you as quickly as possible. We give thanks Father for leading us into all truth.
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. [Jn 8:32]
for His glory
A B Chenoa email@example.com